Note: I pose this as a question. I know this is very unorthodox, and may be considered blasphemy by some. We are going off into uncharted territory here. So, be warned!
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When you read the four Gospels apart from the other sections of the New Testament, you get a sense of a riddle. Each gospel has its own tone and personality. All are putting forth secrets that are being revealed, yet there are many secrets that are not being revealed in the writings. Jesus holds many of those who are anal about the law to cruel ridicule. Jesus pisses these people off, and enrages them. He makes them angry, as if deliberately provoking them into a rage. Then, they get so angry, they nail him to a cross. Many times Jesus tells disciples to keep quiet about the healings and the miracles on fear that he would be killed. Yet, he ridiculed the Pharisees to the point of provoking murderous rage. So, even as the Son of Man, Jesus did miraculous things, but he still recalled his state as a Fallen Angel, and was sometimes a bastard.
Even though he ridicules and drives Pharisees into a rage, he has the utmost compassion for people and seeks to relieve them of physical, emotional, and spiritual pain. He acts like a bastard to some, and like - a Christ - to others!
When Mary asked his to turn some water into wine, he replied that it was a bit too early, and it was not his time yet. Yet, he did perform the miracle.
The fallen angels were apparently cast out of heaven because the head angel wanted to ascend as high as God. Michael, Gabriel, and several archangels fought him off and those who followed the head rebel were cast out of heaven and descended to lower planes of existence, and some apparently descended to the material world, and perhaps even further below into the dense regions called Hell or Hades. Now, these angels were cast out of heaven, right? Some descended to the material plane - Earth and material matter regions. So, if a being is a god, and he becomes incarnate in the flesh of a man, this is a descent - a fall from the heavenly regions into the material realm. Thus, if Jesus is the incarnate Son of God, he was a fallen creature when he walked the Earth. Now, as much as this may defy orthodoxy, there is no possible argument against this: Jesus fell to the Earth just as Satan/Lucifer did. (Let us put aside the argument for the moment about the identities of Lucifer, Ahriman, Satan, and the Devil.) Also, as angels, Jesus and Lucifer are literally the Sons of God, which would include all other angels such as Michael, Gabriel, Rafael, etc. (Many thanks to the Mormons and JW's for being bold enough to posit these propositions as doctrine, albeit they did not have the balls to take it to its conclusions!)
So, Jesus as the Son of God, in any form, must be called a Fallen Creature, because the material world is on a lower plane than the spiritual worlds. We are Fallen Men, because we fell from the spirit world and chose to incarnate on the physical plane for whatever reason. Many spiritual traditions posit that we choose mortal life because we can advance with increased spiritual power on the physical plane faster than any other plane available. One lifetime on Earth could be the spiritual equivalent of 10 or 100 lifetimes on some other plane of existence as far as spiritual advancement.
Thus, Lucifer, the Fallen Angel cast from the highest heavens. dwelt on lower planes, including the physical realm. How could God forgive Lucifer, and how could Lucifer redeem himself? Lucifer could fall completely to the Earth in a human incarnation, bring light to the world (Lucifer means light bearer), be killed on a Cross in payment for his rebellion against God in a previous life, connect the physical world, which he knows very well, with the Spiritual World, and bring the Spiritual World connection to the physical world, through the power of the Holy Spirit, and empower men to become Sons of God like himself, thus redeeming himself through mortal death, and raising up Man to a connection with the Spirit realm through the power of the Holy Ghost so that men can ascend to the heavenlies! Even while living on Earth! Lucifer redeemed himself as the Christ by paying for his sin, and raising up Man toward God!
Thus, if Lucifer redeemed himself in the form of Jesus Christ, then what power does the remaining evil world have upon us! They are lower entities! They have no power over us because Lucifer was the most powerful angel, and now he is in the service of God again! "Upon this Rock, I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it!"
To take this a little further, how could Lucifer ascend into godhood like he wanted to? So, after he paid the ultimate price by being crucified and nailed to the the Cross, then being buried and going down into hell, and retrieving the keys to the caverns of Hell, then rising up back on Earth, and then ascending into heaven. After he brought the Holy Ghost down to man, God offered him and gave him a position in the Holy Trinity as the Son of God incarnate, along with the Holy Spirit into a Trinity of a new God, and a new Godhead! This is why Jesus was hesitant to call himself the Son of God at times, and was called the Son of Man. He had not performed the necessary work to ascend to the position of God, yet! He had to return to his Father and bring down the Holy Ghost, and free men from their fallen state. Thus, we do not get a full understanding until 300 years after Christ of the doctrine of the Trinity because at the time of Christ, there was no Trinity. After Christ ascended and brought down the spirit, he achieved Godhood as he always wanted, and joined himself into the Most High in the Holy Trinity.
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When you read the four Gospels apart from the other sections of the New Testament, you get a sense of a riddle. Each gospel has its own tone and personality. All are putting forth secrets that are being revealed, yet there are many secrets that are not being revealed in the writings. Jesus holds many of those who are anal about the law to cruel ridicule. Jesus pisses these people off, and enrages them. He makes them angry, as if deliberately provoking them into a rage. Then, they get so angry, they nail him to a cross. Many times Jesus tells disciples to keep quiet about the healings and the miracles on fear that he would be killed. Yet, he ridiculed the Pharisees to the point of provoking murderous rage. So, even as the Son of Man, Jesus did miraculous things, but he still recalled his state as a Fallen Angel, and was sometimes a bastard.
Even though he ridicules and drives Pharisees into a rage, he has the utmost compassion for people and seeks to relieve them of physical, emotional, and spiritual pain. He acts like a bastard to some, and like - a Christ - to others!
When Mary asked his to turn some water into wine, he replied that it was a bit too early, and it was not his time yet. Yet, he did perform the miracle.
The fallen angels were apparently cast out of heaven because the head angel wanted to ascend as high as God. Michael, Gabriel, and several archangels fought him off and those who followed the head rebel were cast out of heaven and descended to lower planes of existence, and some apparently descended to the material world, and perhaps even further below into the dense regions called Hell or Hades. Now, these angels were cast out of heaven, right? Some descended to the material plane - Earth and material matter regions. So, if a being is a god, and he becomes incarnate in the flesh of a man, this is a descent - a fall from the heavenly regions into the material realm. Thus, if Jesus is the incarnate Son of God, he was a fallen creature when he walked the Earth. Now, as much as this may defy orthodoxy, there is no possible argument against this: Jesus fell to the Earth just as Satan/Lucifer did. (Let us put aside the argument for the moment about the identities of Lucifer, Ahriman, Satan, and the Devil.) Also, as angels, Jesus and Lucifer are literally the Sons of God, which would include all other angels such as Michael, Gabriel, Rafael, etc. (Many thanks to the Mormons and JW's for being bold enough to posit these propositions as doctrine, albeit they did not have the balls to take it to its conclusions!)
So, Jesus as the Son of God, in any form, must be called a Fallen Creature, because the material world is on a lower plane than the spiritual worlds. We are Fallen Men, because we fell from the spirit world and chose to incarnate on the physical plane for whatever reason. Many spiritual traditions posit that we choose mortal life because we can advance with increased spiritual power on the physical plane faster than any other plane available. One lifetime on Earth could be the spiritual equivalent of 10 or 100 lifetimes on some other plane of existence as far as spiritual advancement.
Thus, Lucifer, the Fallen Angel cast from the highest heavens. dwelt on lower planes, including the physical realm. How could God forgive Lucifer, and how could Lucifer redeem himself? Lucifer could fall completely to the Earth in a human incarnation, bring light to the world (Lucifer means light bearer), be killed on a Cross in payment for his rebellion against God in a previous life, connect the physical world, which he knows very well, with the Spiritual World, and bring the Spiritual World connection to the physical world, through the power of the Holy Spirit, and empower men to become Sons of God like himself, thus redeeming himself through mortal death, and raising up Man to a connection with the Spirit realm through the power of the Holy Ghost so that men can ascend to the heavenlies! Even while living on Earth! Lucifer redeemed himself as the Christ by paying for his sin, and raising up Man toward God!
Thus, if Lucifer redeemed himself in the form of Jesus Christ, then what power does the remaining evil world have upon us! They are lower entities! They have no power over us because Lucifer was the most powerful angel, and now he is in the service of God again! "Upon this Rock, I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it!"
To take this a little further, how could Lucifer ascend into godhood like he wanted to? So, after he paid the ultimate price by being crucified and nailed to the the Cross, then being buried and going down into hell, and retrieving the keys to the caverns of Hell, then rising up back on Earth, and then ascending into heaven. After he brought the Holy Ghost down to man, God offered him and gave him a position in the Holy Trinity as the Son of God incarnate, along with the Holy Spirit into a Trinity of a new God, and a new Godhead! This is why Jesus was hesitant to call himself the Son of God at times, and was called the Son of Man. He had not performed the necessary work to ascend to the position of God, yet! He had to return to his Father and bring down the Holy Ghost, and free men from their fallen state. Thus, we do not get a full understanding until 300 years after Christ of the doctrine of the Trinity because at the time of Christ, there was no Trinity. After Christ ascended and brought down the spirit, he achieved Godhood as he always wanted, and joined himself into the Most High in the Holy Trinity.
